ranger: is panic a full time gig, or do you have day jobs?

sf: i went full time on june 4, 1999. probably the greatestday of my life so far.

cs: i've been full time for about a year. i used to work as an art director at a local web agency. i lived in the world of cap'n crunch for a while, and i still have erotic dreams involving the cap'n. just kidding.

ranger: how did audion come about?

sf: our previous release had been an ftp client, which is mostly a thing for tech-heads. it just didn't have that mass consumer appeal. we started tossing around an idea called the panicpack which was to be a suite of small utilities, including a cd player called audion. one day, cabel says to me, "can we make it play mp3s too?" and somehow i got that together. and then i thought, hmm, well since it plays mp3s, maybe i can make it play mp3 net streams as well, and soon that was working. it quickly became apparent that audion was becoming a product in its own right and the remainder of the panicpack remains buried in a vault which we hope to have geraldo explore in a spellbinding television event about five years from now.